To quote Paul’s advice to men…

“Life with the greatest majority of women is a battle for your soul…”

Hey guys it’s D.Shen here, the founder of Commitment Triggers & Shen Wade Media where we teach you how to show up as a high value woman who easily inspires commitment from men.

Oh boy – do I have something for you today!

I was introduced to the MGTOW community a couple of weeks ago by one of our readers… and my goodness did that lead down a crazy rabbit hole…

Just in case you were like me and had no idea what the heck is MGTOW… (It stands for Men Going Their Own Way)… see this MGTOW movement as the counter-feminism movement.

See it as a movement to patronize women just as radical feminism has patronized men.

See it as a movement to convince men away from committed relationships…

This was somewhat triggering for me because of my own beliefs. As you may know, I’m married. As you may know, I’m married to Renee…(whom I have nothing but respect, appreciation and admiration for.)

But she has earned every single bit of that and completely deserve it.

More importantly, I truly believe in the value of a committed relationship, where both parties truly value the deepening of that relationship, where both parties put each other first, not their own needs.

I truly believe something magical happens when two people come together.

But back to this MGTOW movement…

Here’s a video from one of the voices (Paul Elam) of this MGTOW community…

This is advice from one man to other men about the real reasons to NOT get married… (Right this moment – it may strike some fear in your heart, but know that this is just someone else’s perspective and doesn’t make you any less. You are valuable and worthy with and without this perspective.)

(Wait a second, before you go and watch this 14min video, I want you to keep an open mind about this because it’s easy to get “hooked” and “triggered” by this. Don’t worry, I’m also guilty of this.)

Instead, let’s give our understanding first.

Let’s lead with our understanding.

Let’s see the value in this even if we completely disagree.

Let us hear a different perspective, as this different perspective may hold value that gives us a deeper understanding of life, of men, and of relationships.

Now I just want to be clear…

I am not entirely against what Paul is doing for men. I have nothing against the man, himself.

I know his message has value for SOME men, just as feminism has value for SOME women.

I CAN understand where he is coming from, and that perhaps he feels like he needs to protect men from “modern relationships” or the sanction of marriage. Perhaps he feels the need to give shelter to the men who have been beaten to their knees by the demands of the “modern relationship”.

Also, we need to remember that this is his advice to men. Not for women.

Paul is very articulate, and very well spoken. He sounds somewhat educated although I can hear resentment in his voice.

One thing I don’t like about what Paul is doing, is that he is assuming the worst intent from women. And from that mental and emotional place, I believe he’s passing on his own resentment in the shape of “advice”, more than he is giving true understanding to men.

And resentment isn’t going to free you at the end of the day. Understanding and appreciation will.

Because here’s what I always believe…

Neither men and women have bad intent.

At the core of the matter, we’re only trying to meet our own needs, sometimes in selfish ways, sometimes in more selfless ways.

Men and women however, have very different reproductive agendas. In other words, men and women seek different things in dating and relationships.

And as such, there will always be natural conflict between a man and a woman. ALWAYS.

In fact, if a man is truly masculine at his core and a woman is in her feminine core, then there will almost always be constant tension in the relationship.

It doesn’t have to be negative tension. It could be tension of attraction, of eroticism, or tension of anticipation.

And it’s in our natural interests to influence the people around us to become more LIKE us.

So in any long term relationship, the masculine man will instinctively try to convert his woman to become more masculine as the woman would try to shape him to be more feminine.

It’s not anyone’s fault, these are our natural instincts.

By making men wrong for doing so would be ridiculous and takes away everything that makes him a masculine man.

By making women wrong for doing so would be ridiculous and takes away everything that makes her a feminine woman.

We instinctively think that this is a way to connect deeper because then… we’d be “more alike!”

However, the more alike a man and a woman are in a relationship, the less tension, the less attraction and passion there will be.

It’s a double edge sword.

Anyhow, I’ve gone on a complete rant here.

Go ahead and watch that video above. And here’s what I’m asking from you.

I want you to watch it to understand, not to judge.

I want you to feel the emotions behind the words.

I want you to feel the pain behind the resentment.

I want you to deepen your understanding of men’s struggles in this world.

If you can truly appreciate this video without judgement, then I applaud you.

And plus, doesn’t a high value woman seek to understand, not judge?

Take a moment, comment below and let me know what you’ve learned…

 

NEWPolaroid David

D. Shen

Commitment Triggers

P.S. If you would like to hear about my perspective on this video… (I have plenty of rebuttals already in my head), Let me know in the comments below. I didn’t actually want to make this post about me…

P.P.S. For the record, I believe all men WANT to commit to a woman (the right woman). Without that drive to commit, we humans wouldn’t be here as our offspring would be long dead. But no man, (or woman) would like to be taken advantage of! It’s important for you to know that by truly having that deep understanding of the opposite sex, as well as a healthy sense of worthiness, you would and could never be taken advantage of again. Understanding is power.

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Anna C

Hi David! Thanks for the update! Of course I want to hear your thoughts! I actually can appreciate where this man is coming from, although I think he may be coming from a place of hurt and fear, which is always a contractive place. I’ve seen women maul men in marriage, not supporting them ever by not working and taking all their money and their kids in a divorce, ruining everything they ever worked for in their lives. I’m one of those women who defend those men, and one of those women who want to take the power away from… Read more »

Parson James
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Parson James

No, he’s coming from a place of sensibility and logic. And from a place devoid of female legal and social privilege, as he is a man, not a woman.

Birdie
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Birdie

As a divorced woman in my 40

Dana Brechwald
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Dana Brechwald

This is so sad and wrong. I feel bad for this man and the kinds of relationships he’s experienced in his life. This is so far from describing my relationship with my man. We have real mutual respect and love. Maybe we are unicorns, or maybe we are just decent people who’ve learned how to not be self-absorbed and to treat other people like human beings.

Mark
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Mark

But your man has no choice once married. The woman can choose to take his life or leave it alone. Don’t give women this choice. It is unfair and will never be the building block of a successful relationship. If you want to commit to a woman, do it, but keep her honest by not marrying! If a woman does NOT want to enter this extremely fair, lack of a contract, consider that she is not the one. If she loves you she will do that for you. If she loves your life and money she will insist on getting… Read more »

Shefali
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Shefali

I’m a big believer in marriage with the right person. But you are equal partners, you’ve got each others’ back, etc. My ex and I were married for 18 years, then a variety of horrible things happened – I got cancer, his father died, then his mother died and he had a hard time coping with all of that grief in the space of a few months, so he had an affair. It was really pretty devastating for me, but the thing is I didn’t “take him to the cleaners”. We had a very civilized divorce – we didn’t hire… Read more »

Amy
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Amy

I am a mother of twin baby boys. I couldn’t imagine not being married to their father! He loves,provides and protects us. I am a full time homemaker. He provides the house and I make it a home for our family. Your idea of a relationship sounds very selfish and unstable for a family. You believe a woman should have your children and not be protected financially if you decide to abandon them? Fear can work both ways there can be no love in a relationship you describe. Please don’t have children until you are ready .there are too many… Read more »

Angela
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Angela

What is unfair in society is that women are considered “invisible “ after a certain age whereas men are considered eligible at any age. The current marriage legislation protects women after a divorce and makes up for this double standard in society. However, women who are unfaithful in marriage and abusive should not leave with anything more than what they brought to it. So many men who originally were chivalrous and giving have been ruined for other women by evil exes. But absolutely not all women are like that!!

Birdie
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Birdie

As a divorced woman in my 40’s, this is the sad reality I deal with. I have a hard time finding a man willing to have a relationship with me or any woman for that matter, because they’ve been hurt one too many times, they’ve been in legal battles of their children’s custody or lost half of their property.

The sad thing is that I’ve been trying to remarry for the last 7 years with no luck. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met many men in my age group but they’re all afraid of commitment. ?

Bianca Lewis
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Bianca Lewis

I wonder if he’s married?? People can become sooo bitter and twisted after they’ve been rejected by the opposite sex! I really don’t know if he made it out of spite. It’s terrible that some men will without a doubt, use that website to nit-pick and degrade women. But come on, really those men would LOVE to be in a great relationship but may just be too prideful to admit it! But I don’t think that this is the intention of the founder of the website at all. His opinions could be heard as idiosyncratic and an offensive perspective to… Read more »

WannaBeMGTOW
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WannaBeMGTOW

He’s not married. He’d love to be in a relationship but he has way to much to lose because women in his past have taken everything he had to begin with. He’s got ZERO good reason to try it again…..your ego made it about his pride which is a great example of why he is the way he is.

Pooja Pophale
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Pooja Pophale

Hey David,when I saw the video I did not judge him at all.In fact I totally understand his perspective.However I also feel that he should take personal responsibility to choose a good woman who can be a good wife…instead of blaming women.
Also I feel that since he believes the worst regarding women,he also meets bad women who reinforce his beliefs.
This is just the law of attraction.

Thank you for sharing this.
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Marine-Zareh Boyadjian
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Marine-Zareh Boyadjian

So true…I’ve actually several several of those videos posted by another MGTOW. Honestly it does make me angry. These men are blaming all women and actually hate the whole population of women.

animator geek
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animator geek

why you angry toward him? what about the women make him felt that way? the bad women have do nothing wrong? the bad women make MGTOW possible. believe me! so is his fault alone?

Mark
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Mark

Are we blaming women or the unfair court system! It is hard to imagine but what if you lost everything a man does. I need you to really think about it. You will lose your kids, unless you can afford expensive attorneys. You will likely have to pay for her attorney too. You will pay 30-50% of your paycheck forever. She will retire, you will work. If you get a raise you will have to goto court to defend your money. She will win if you have gotten a raise. So she is divorced, but you aren’t! You are still… Read more »

Patrick
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Patrick

Or just walk away from them. Women are parasitic in nature. They are NOT equal to men.

Ally
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Ally

I find that grossly unfair. But I respect your opinion. My ex and I have 50/50 custody and i earn more so i pay him. I agree that men and women are not equal. We have different roles. I don’t believe I can do what men can do. I can only do what I’m good at.

Guest
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Guest

One of them gave birth to you! For Christ’s sake. Women have been hurt by the feminist garbage just as much as men have, only they don’t fully realise it yet. We are not equal, we are superior – but only in our natural, unpoliticised state. Try being a feminine woman these days! It’s HARD. You get shot at by both guys like you AND feminists. And, by the way, have you ever wondered why men so easily abdicated their power in favour of women? In my estimation, they have been bought by the promise of cheap, easily accessible sex.… Read more »

Shefali
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Shefali

Maybe he married the wrong woman. I’ve seen men go for the superficial – all they go for is the “perfect 10”. They don’t bother getting to know women as people. Then they are surprised when the woman they married turns out to have serious character flaws. Of course, usually, these types of superficial men end up with superficial women who look at men based on their income. Me, I try to get to know men. I was not in a rush to jump into a relationship. I wanted to find the man who shared my values, was a kind,… Read more »

Unicorn
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Unicorn

So did I go to the wrong court? My ex took my kids after a year of divorcing and wabting nothing to do with them. When finding a new girlfriend to marry, and bribing my daughter to lie in court this woman, me, struggled to pay her own way through college and pay for necessities, food, electric, water, and anything my kids needed when with me. Fortunately my son was able to leave after 6 years of emotional abuse. I pray to our Lord, that he has a healthy relationship. He sees the injustice done and is disappointed in what… Read more »

Sarah
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Sarah

I think he makes valid points, I have witnessed men in relationships like this with my own friends. Boycotting marriage does not change the situation at all though, because you can still be in a poor relationship without a ring. I would be interested to have him do a video exploring the following: – Men who ended up in relationships like he described…how did that happen, in terms of THEIR contribution only? Digging into the psychology of that man, and how he somehow continued to date such a person and even choose to marry them. Where did he go wrong?… Read more »

animator geek
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animator geek

actually men don’t need relationship with a good women. men only need his money and freedom. without marriage he got his own time and money. mgtow is philosophy not movement like MRA. If you really angry toward mgtow. I don’t know what to say. I hope you realize your whole comment triggered more men to not marry anyone in this modern age. If you don’t trust me make it viral. You will see a whole a lot more men refuse to marry.

nena
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nena

I am sorry David,I could t stand listen to the whole video!that voice is so dull and annoying!!!but I would like to hear your views!!!
What can I say about all this?both sexes are equally responsible for the situation!unfortunately for women nowadays it is not political correct anymore to want to please their husband or care about him!!!
Looking forward to the post to follow!!!

Tanya Rachel Wieczorek
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Tanya Rachel Wieczorek

You’re right, very annoying! I find is suspicious he called someone “bovine & facially-challenged”, and yet he takes care not to show *his* face during that whole 15 minute video!

nena
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nena

Of course we don t judge,but the annoying voice along with the secrecy,really tell us something about the person!!!oops!!!i just judged and i am not at all sorry 😉

YukiSmile
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YukiSmile

I see. I hope he is lucky enough to meet great woman to change his opinion about his marriage. Good luck.:)
The last part about meeting woman at the church really made laugh. It somehow tickled a part of my heart, kinda make sense…who knows:)

Indy
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Indy

p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 120%; } Agreeing with Sarah, don’t we usually open our door to welcome what we are ready for ? Unpredictable changes do exist, in long term relationships as well. Moving to live together, a marriage, a first baby and many more may reveal surprising shifts of required or claimed priorities unfolding at any taken step. A change of career, unemployment or a business success may be an impact. Aren’t often unconscious and therefore unspoken and unshared fears involved? I have witnessed women who were never hiding their self entitlement, ones who switched within the comfort… Read more »

Jennifer
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Jennifer

Mark Manson’s article came out a couple hours ago. “What’s the Problem with Men?” couldn’t be a more timely, sobering response to that video: https://markmanson.net/whats-the-problem-with-men Here are a couple excerpts: “Men are so emotionally incompetent without women, getting married is literally the healthiest thing a man can do in his life. One research summary of emotional suppression went as far to say: “emotional restrictiveness is the leading cause to why men die earlier [than women.]”18 “Married men live longer and score higher on pretty much every quality-of-life metric there is, including happiness and life expectancy. Marriage is apparently so important… Read more »

Tylorlantis
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Tylorlantis

Your kinda right jen but so ronge at the same time my love dove, its Amazing wat you can find out about a person and how they fill and wate thar doing on the web and websites well got to go im bizzy i love you shit head keep your head up and stay the fuck out of trubel ? ??????????all day babe

Emmanuel Goldstein
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Emmanuel Goldstein

This Mark Manson article is complete nonsense on many levels: 1) men are not emotionally incompetent without women, but men are treated as such. 2) where is the evidence that “emotional restrictiveness” is why men die younger. 3) Of course married men are healthier, richer, and happier – people who are sick, broke and depressed have poor marriage prospects.

Shefali
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Shefali

I have seen men do much better married, and decline quite a bit after their spouse dies. In a marriage a woman nurtures a man emotionally and men thrive with this. Of course, if you have never seen a good marriage where the wife is looking after her husband (and vice versa) then of course you would disagree. There is statistical evidence (married men live longer) and there is anecdotal evidence (men who lose their wives to death after a good marriage typically rush to find a new wife) but the reality is that not everyone is suited for marriage.

Ange
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Ange

I have been dating a man for 3 and a half years who also shares his views and to be honest I can see why. There are a lot of greedy, selfish self-absorbed woman out there who don’t appreciate or respect their men. As a woman in my late 40’s who has been divorced and has two kids and now know what I want in a man, it is difficult to find one who is both masculine and knows how to treat a woman with care and respect but still want that woman to be independent and feminine. My man… Read more »

Ally
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Ally

I love this!

Caryn Parker
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Caryn Parker

Wow ! I feel a little sad for that man and other men who believe all that. I do understand why some men feel that way though, because there are many valid points about the whole law and society system. There are some women, maybe a lot out there that treat men that way and sometimes visa versa. I can see men really do need relationship help to find their way past the selfish women and to the ever elusive unicorns, as he puts it. I am one of those unicorns, and proud of it! Though I believe there are… Read more »

Tanya Rachel Wieczorek
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Tanya Rachel Wieczorek

” I do feel a little hurt when men or women generalize each other and lump them all in the same pot. ”

Well said, I agree!

Everyone is different. Not fair or right to paint everyone with the same brush.

sofia
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sofia

I think he should have knowledge on women & relationships because he causes men low value men to become commitment phobic. I really don’t agree with him
that’s his views anyway

I appreciate for sharing! David

Ida Engela
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Ida Engela

There is a lot of truth in this man’s words. I get where he is coming from. He’s more right than wrong. He turns me on. Mwah!

Bianca Lewis
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Bianca Lewis

LOL!

Tanya Rachel Wieczorek
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Tanya Rachel Wieczorek

I think you meant “our ancestors would have been long dead”?

ab ee
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ab ee

I agree with the CORRUPT family law system being changed to where NO one gets alimony or child support. To force any human to do something against their will is slavery. This family law system is in place to make money for the courts and lawyers and that is all it is. The courts are actually DESTROYING families more than helping them. Times are changing which cause more men to NOT marry. I’m NOT against marriage. A woman and man will never be equal if you really think about it when it comes to gender. Most women always say they… Read more »

Amy
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Amy

So if a husband and wife agree for the wife to be a homemaker and according to you after 20 years she should be kicked to the curb broke if the husband backs out of marriage . There’s sacrifice from both mother and father in raising healthy both mentally and physically. I’m sorry but daycares don’t care about your children. Why do you think we have so many kids messed up…..no real families anymore

Rachel Rudd
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Rachel Rudd

Frankly, I feel nothing but pity for the men caught up in this movement. They have either been so badly abused by women in their lives that they cannot see beyond their own experience (much like women who have been abused by men), or they have been so imprudent and unsuccessful in their own interactions with women that they justify their inaptitude like fox that cannot reach the grapes. Perhaps this sounds patronizing, but I don’t think a woman should ever get angry when men rant about women. It’s a sign of weakness or injury, and a woman arguing with… Read more »

Jim Johnson
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Jim Johnson

What gets me is the amount of negative press these guys get. Yes, they are hurt and bitter, but knowing what they went through to get to this point makes it understandable. Most of the MGTOW are guys who had a bad divorce, lost contact with their children, and are paying child support and/or alimony. They simply got hurt more than the benefits they received from the marriage. They don’t think it is worth it in today’s society to do it again, and are bowing out. This isn’t just loudmouths on the internet, seeing what my coworker is going through,… Read more »

Indy
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Indy

A quick insight from the old continent (Europe). Governments usually do support the socially weaker, often only if they have no other choice. A married person gets less help than a single one. When divorce rates started to grow in the last century and women were usually taking care of household and education, they simply kept that part as their ex-husband kept his job. The money source for mother and children still could be his and had to be his. No increase in government expenses, no special tax rising needed. The law is very serious about keeping it that way… Read more »

Validity
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Validity

Wow that’s new,he seems passionate about what claims women are,l dont judge him,l actually feel sad for what he must have been through,this also made me happy cause l know for sure there are still good women out there who want to give love because it is who there are inside

Tim Shepard
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Tim Shepard

Mr Shen you seem incredibley naive. Admittedly Paul Elam has harsh words. That’s this motif, he’s speaking hard truth. But if you want Scientific Detachment, read http://www.RealWorldDivorce.com. The result is the same the Government is at war with men in our society, and marriage is their main weapon. Only a complete fool would allow himself to be suckered into a US marriage. I advise your readers to look up some men in their 50’s and find out if they think marriage was a good idea or not.

Chris Wake
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Chris Wake

I know it’ll never happen, but marriage shouldn’t be sold as the ideal “goal” or “endgame” in our society. Films, tv, books, etc paint this portrait of a fictional utopia where one’s life is simply reduced to “finding the one”. In the real world “the one” doesn’t exist and your life will benefit largely with that knowledge. You are now free to engage in relationships without the mounting pressure of legal paperwork signifying two people are binded by law. 2 individuals coming together can be a special thing, but society of all ages has made that a chore rather than… Read more »

Paul Nelson
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Paul Nelson

If a man gets married he has a 50 % chance of losing his home at least half of his savings and custody of his children. 85 % percent of divorces are filed by the wife. Half of the divorces filed by the man is because the wife was cheating. In recent polls 75 % of wives after 5 years of marriage would rather not have sex with there husband.

Cali Curmudgeon
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Cali Curmudgeon

Sorry, but Paul Elam is spot-on. All too many of you here don’t like the message, so you are denigrating the messenger. The Femi(social)ist and Femi(commu)nist Left has poisoned the once nourishing well of marriage, and even though they have been defeated (all too narrowly) in recent elections, they still control the entertainment/cultural, legal/judicial, and (pseudo)intellectual/academic institutions. The reason for their agenda is that the more they can break up marriages and families, the more they can expand statist power at the expend of us the individual citizens. And finally, some men–and some women too–are wising up, hence the MGTOW… Read more »

Danaellen
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Danaellen

You nailed it in spades! The goal, by the left, is to break the family to create dependency on the government. It’s cultural Marxism.

Nicholas P Byram
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Nicholas P Byram

I have watched a good many videos of his, and Paul Elam is spot-on. All too many of the readers on this blog don’t like the message, so they are denigrating the messenger. The Femi(social)ist and Femi(commu)nist Left has poisoned the once nourishing well of marriage, and even though they have been defeated (all too narrowly) in recent elections, they still control the entertainment/cultural, legal/judicial, and (pseudo)intellectual/academic institutions. The reason for their agenda is that the more they can break up marriages and families, the more they can expand statist power at the expend of us the individual citizens. And… Read more »

WannaBeMGTOW
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WannaBeMGTOW

If you want more understanding of the MGTOW movement and Paul Elam, you should watch “The Red Pill Movie”……women have made us expendable. As Maximus said in Gladiator, “if we work together, we survive”…..all we want to do now as men is survive. In today’s society, for a man to get married is akin to cashing out his net worth for the total sum of it as his bank, getting on a plane to Vegas and plopping the whole thing down on red or black at the first craps table he comes to. He has a 50% chance of winning… Read more »

Ryan
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Ryan

Very well written. I’m about to Marry a legitimately wonderful woman (although not perfect) and am marrying for the second time.

She comes from an amazing family with solid values and is very successful. We encourage each other career wise and are a great support.

After my first marriage, I still disagree with some of the wild rants that MGTOW guys offer.

Although I admit this article gave me some peace making this move again. I think it hits the nail on the head.

Mark
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Mark

Yes of course guys commit! But just don’t get married. If your significant other is confused, just ask her to sign the same contract you are signing. Which would read in the event this doesn’t work out you must keep working to support me and the kids. It goes without saying that I will get the kids. You will pay alimony forever! If you get a raise I expect to see you in court so I can get my portion of the raise! I will go on vacations, while you struggle with making ends meet. Doesn’t matter to me what… Read more »

Mark
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Mark

The red pill is on Netflix. Watch it! It will change the way you think forever.

Patrick
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Patrick

I would call myself red pill…or at least between red and purple. I don’t know if I am a full fledged MGTOW yet (Man going his own way), but I am getting there. They can be abrasive, but they make some excellent points. It’s certainly possible that I am a TFL (true forced loneliness). I’m pretty sure I’m not an INCEL because I used to be able to get sex from women, not from 9s or 8s… But certainly from 5s and 6s and a few 7s. But now that I’m 44, they don’t hang with me much…. I could… Read more »

Shana
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Shana

I would like to hear your rebuttal. I can’t say I agree with this man, but I do see where he is coming from. I believe marriage is very hard, but I also believe it can be very rewarding. I think both sexes have tendencies to settle for mates that make themselves disappear. But I don’t think it’s new in this era, I think it’s always been this way.

Carole
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Carole

Blimey! I absolutely agree with him…I see it all the time. Thanks to my guidance from Renee and subsequent research I have coached myself to re-discover my feminine core after my 31 year corporate career. I have this conversation with many men, who have all felt heard and understood. I meet few women who get it. This is great…thanks for sharing

Marie
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Marie

What an interesting perspective. I experienced the exact opposite in my 20 year marriage. I’m divorced now. My ex husband was the dominant decision maker. Although I was the main breadwinner, my ex made the decisions on what cars to buy, where to go on vacation, the homes we purchased. I had a small amount of influence, but it was my ex who made the final decision. He was very domineering and I was fearful of his temper. I suppose a balance is what we’re all looking for….to become true partners in life without one or the other being manipulative… Read more »

Diane M Reynolds
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Diane M Reynolds

You’re so good David! I appreciate the balanced way you explained this. I love Renee too. Thank you so much!

Liz
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Liz

I feel like he’s the typical narrow-minded person who has a few bad experiences and has decided to judge the millions of people who are the same gender/race/religion/age by the few he knew. Same as radical feminists do. He seems to forget that he’s the common denominator in all his bad relationships – he’s attracted to the wrong sort of person. Just like a women who goes from one abusive relationship to the next and then claims that all men are bad, instead of looking in the mirror and realizing she isn’t a good judge of character and is attracted… Read more »

Vivian
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Vivian

✨It looks like for me the real “villains” in the story are: 1. divorce and 2. the mall! 😆 These is what we need to avoid.

Susan
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Susan

Dear David, you know where I stand on this. I know a man who married this self entitled woman who bosses him around his whole life, and took his entire savings, house and car and turned his kids against him because the court system allowed it. This woman never worked in her life but managed to get his every penny to take lavish international vacations several times a year, exist in an expensive San Francisco apartmenf and purchase designer clothes, get massages and expensive beauty treatments every day, as well as get the man to pay for her lawyer all… Read more »

Debbie
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Debbie

I can feel his resentment and judgment of ALL women. I was thinking he, and men who follow him, must have been really hurt in their relationships with women, and now feel it’s correct to judge all women the same. It’s also a generalization and insult to the men who do not regard women this way. I listened and kept shaking my head. I’ve met men like this who automatically assume the worst in women. Many were divorced. They gave off a vibe of bitterness and judgment without taking time to get to know me or my circumstances. One man… Read more »

New
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New

David please post on your perspective on this video.

Renata
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Renata

David I’m sorry but you lost me here. There’s no need to overexplain, overthink or trying to ‘understand’ this. Red pillers and MGTOW hate women. They always have and always will. Nobody will ever be ‘good enough’. They don’t want a real person, they want a fantasy. They don’t really want to take a good hard look at themselves either.

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